Andrew interviews two ladies from TransGender San Francisco. Lisa Dummer is the Vice President of TGSF, and President of the Board for the Transgender Law Center. Bonnie Bryen is the Outreach Co-Chair for TGSF.

These women explain the complicated issues around changing gender, including their own motivations to transition. Some issues were completely unexpected.

For more information: http://www.tgsf.org/

This episode was taped in June 2008.

This episode was first aired on KMVT 15 in November 2008.

This episode was web published 11/12/2008.

This episode received the 2009 WAVE award in the category Special Audience.

This episode was published to KMVT 15's YouTube channel on 11/26/08.